1st Stakeholder Consultation summary report
Multi-dimensional Global University Ranking
First stakeholder consultation meeting: Brussels, 8 October 2009
Short report on main issues.
General remarks
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The new system, U multiranking, that is suggested is subjective. Some of the stakeholders praise this fact, others see limitations. |
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Very good that each stakeholder target group can choose their own priorities and their own point of reference. |
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This system makes it possible to make a personal ranking depending on the individual selection. Most stakeholders value this fact very high. |
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Good that the instrument is demand driven instead of supply driven. |
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Good that there is a possibility to take into account national differences. |
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Very important that the competiveness stays between institutions. |
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Students want the best institution possible and need one overview. Is not possible when the dimensions are used. |
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Target groups are not defined! This is a big strength everybody, every individual can be target group. For now examples are used! |
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Some institutions will always be less good than others this can not be avoided. |
‘Traffic light’ system
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The ‘traffic light’ system has the same limitations as other ranking when comparing the red, green and yellow outcomes. How to avoid this? Quartiles are being used. |
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The three catagories (red, green and yellow) are not fixed yet. |
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only formal education is taken into account also but activities of students outside the formal education could be a possible indicator. Such as international exchange. |
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There is a need for comparable indicators. |
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Need to discuss how to include research institutions that are not educational institutions. |
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Need to identify indicators: |
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For research some could be the same as being used in current ranking systems |
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Need indicators that are countable otherwise it is impossible to see the difference between the institutions. |
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When defining indicators include the institutions. They have to give the input, the data and have to work with the indicators. |
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It is not possible to include all the institutions off the world but make an representative group. So avoid identifying them all by yourself. |
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When defining the indicators there need to be a strong theoretical backbone. There need to be a weight between the indicators. Nobody has an solution to this yet. |
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When defining the indicators experts are used to give information about the use of different types of databases. |
webtool
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Need for an operational system on how to gather the data from the institutions and how to use it. There are ideas such as: |
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a pre filled questionnaire sent to all institutions |
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use national information systems and combine the information. |
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Institutions have an own responsibility to update the data through a website |
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More work and thought needs to be done concerning the suggested webtool. More ideas and information is requested. |
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Updating the data every year is not feasible. Need to find an interim e.g. every 2 years, 5 years. |
U-Map
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Some are critical against the use of U-map this is European centered and the new U-multiranking should be applicable globally. In the United states a similar system like U-Map is being developed. Combine these systems and test this with the sample group of institutions. Everybody agrees this is still a challenge. |
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U-Map shows diversity in student population need to put this also in the U-Multiranking. |
Media:
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Problem with media could be that they will still add up alle the outcomes and make a league chart. |
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Inform media as soon as possible |
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Avoid that others will say “ European higher education institutions are not doing well within the existing rankings so they come up with their own” |
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Involve media to get broader support. |
Field rankings
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The pilots that are chosen under the field rankings are not unanimously approved and calls for a lot of (further) discussion. But they are accepted as pilots because a test of the methodology is needed. There is always room for discussion. The change that is made is: teaching institutions into: :innovation institutions. |
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Not forget that field are getting more and more interdisciplinary. Also need to be included in the new system. Still a question how? Are national examples that can be used. |
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Suggestion: instead of using just two, business and engineering take a co pilot to compare. |
Workshops
There is a big interest for participating in the workshops that are yet to come.
Stakeholders praise the organizers for their transparency. They see a lot of challenges that still have to be faced and are enthousiastic about the new U Multiranking.
Social media